# Can restaurants survive without traditional tipping? | Katie Button (Reupload) | 063

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Podcast: [The Pre-Shift](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-pre-shift-3009561)
Published: 2025-05-29T17:00:00+00:00
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The restaurant industry has long struggled with the divide between front and back-of-house compensation. In this archive episode of The Pre-Shift Podcast, Chef Katie Button of Cúrate and La Bodega by Cúrate in Asheville reveals how she completely transformed her restaurant's pay structure after the pandemic shutdown. Katie details her journey from engineering PhD student to award-winning chef, and explains why she took the bold step of eliminating sub-minimum wage pay, implementing a weighted...

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