# Doing Couples Therapy as a Husband-and-Wife Team | Kiana & Andrew Joyner | TPOT 422

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Podcast: [The Practice of Therapy Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-practice-of-therapy-podcast-503331)
Published: 2026-03-03T12:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1829

## Resource

If you've ever thought about offering couples therapy in your private practice but felt intimidated by the complexity of it, you're going to love this conversation. In this episode, I'm joined by Kiana and Andrew Joyner, a married duo who run their practice together and specialize in couples work. Kiana is a licensed therapist, and Andrew is a certified professional coach, and together they bring a really unique dynamic into the therapy room. We talk about what it actually looks like to do couples counseling as a husband and wife team, how they divide roles between therapy and coaching, and why communication is still the number one issue couples bring to the table. They also share how Facebook groups have become one of their biggest referral sources and how they positioned themselves in a niche that still sets them apart. If you're curious about building a couples niche, partnering with your spouse in private practice, or simply refining your approach to couples work, there are a lot of practical takeaways in this one. And if couples therapy feels like a lot to hold on your own, you might just be inspired by what's possible when you do not have to do it alone. Resources Mentioned In This Episode Watch on YouTube Wealth & Worth Within CEO Financial Clarity Corner Use the promo code "GORDON" to get 2 months of Therapy Notes free Consulting with Gordon The PsychCraft Network Meet Kiana Joyner, MSW, LCSW, LICSW & Andrew Joyner, CPC, SHRM-CP Kiana and Andrew Joyner are a therapist–coach duo helping individuals and couples build clarity, communication, and accountability through a culturally aligned blend of therapy, coaching, and lived experience. As Certified Wealth Educators, they also address how financial stress and values-based decision-making impact relationships, gui…

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