# You Call Yourself a Christian?! A conversation with John Fugelsang Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-politicsgirl-podcast-4482934/you-call-yourself-a-christian-a-conversation-with-john-fugelsang Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-politicsgirl-podcast-4482934/you-call-yourself-a-christian-a-conversation-with-john-fugelsang.md Podcast: [The PoliticsGirl Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-politicsgirl-podcast-4482934) Published: 2025-12-02T08:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/1058/claritaspod.com/measure/traffic.megaphone.fm/MTH8423956671.mp3 Audio file: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/1058/claritaspod.com/measure/traffic.megaphone.fm/MTH8423956671.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-politicsgirl-podcast-4482934/episodes/you-call-yourself-a-christian-a-conversation-with-john-fugelsang Duration seconds: 3117 ## Resource Best selling author and comedian, John Fugelsang reminds us that the problem isn’t religion, it’s the fundamentalists and extremists who use religion as a way to power. As John says, “If your church isn’t telling you to love your enemy, but telling you who your enemies are, then it isn’t a church.” We have to stop using religion as an excuse to hate. There’s a reason the American constitution gave us a society where the church and state existed independent of each other and anyone who is suggesting that the two should co-mingle isn’t doing it because they love Jesus, they’re doing it because they love power and they’re acquiring it using his name. As always, if you find worth in what we do, please consider SUBSCRIBING to PoliticsGirl Premium. You’ll get this podcast ad free, along with a bunch of other perks, like the rants directly to your inbox and the knowledge that you’re making this kind of highly researched, factual information possible. If that interests you, please go to https://www.politicsgirl.com/premium and subscribe today!! Thank you so much! xoPG Guest social: https://www.johnfugelsang.com Separation of Church & Hate: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Separation-of-Church-and-Hate/John-Fugelsang/9781668066898 As always, please RATE and SUBSCRIBE so we can grow the show, open the dialogue, and inspire change moving forward! All show links here!: https://linktr.ee/politicsgirl This episode is sponsored by… https://Sundaysfordogs.com/politicsgirl code: politicsgirl https://quince.com/politicsgirl https://leesa.com code: politicsgirl https://dupe.com iQbar: TEXT PG to 64000 ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-politicsgirl-podcast-4482934/episodes/you-call-yourself-a-christian-a-conversation-with-john-fugelsang/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-politicsgirl-podcast-4482934/you-call-yourself-a-christian-a-conversation-with-john-fugelsang.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.