# Telling Stories with Maps: Allen Carroll on the Art of Map-Based Storytelling

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Published: 2025-11-05T05:10:00+00:00
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## Resource

Welcome back to the show! In this week's episode, I chat with Allen Carroll, former Chief Cartographer at National Geographic and part of Esri's StoryMapsteam. We talk about his new book, Telling Stories with Maps, which explores how maps can communicate meaning, emotion, and narrative. Allen shares his journey from analog map design to interactive, multimedia storytelling—and how digital tools are transforming the way we visualize place and data. We also discuss design choices, the balance between creativity and accessibility, and why storytelling is at the heart of effective communication. It's a fascinating look at the intersection of geography, design, and technology. Check out Allen's book on Amazon [https://amzn.to/4qD6wNF] or wherever you get your books. Subscribe to the PolicyViz Podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Become a patron of the PolicyViz Podcast [https://patreon.com/policyviz?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink] for as little as a buck a month Follow Giorgia on Twitter [https://twitter.com/giorgialupi] and find her book "This is Me and Only Me [https://amzn.to/47bhvEG]" on Amazon Follow me on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/jschwabish/?hl=en], LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanschwabish/], Substack [https://jschwabish.substack.com/], Twitter [https://twitter.com/jschwabish], Website [https://policyviz.com/], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/c/JonSchwabish] Email: jon@policyviz.com [jschwabish@gmail.com]

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