# From Data Literacy to Storytelling: Insights from The Little Book of Data Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-policyviz-podcast-1096919/from-data-literacy-to-storytelling-insights-from-the-little-book-of-data Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-policyviz-podcast-1096919/from-data-literacy-to-storytelling-insights-from-the-little-book-of-data.md Podcast: [The PolicyViz Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-policyviz-podcast-1096919) Published: 2025-09-24T04:05:00+00:00 Episode link: https://zencastr.com/z/ETs2F8p9 Audio file: https://redirect.zencastr.com/r/episode/68d1ad24593b239f6854b918/size/51226281/audio-files/5a0b59c06ebaa2000f259f8d/b95d18aa-a7e8-47e7-ab57-9092f59c4e44.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-policyviz-podcast-1096919/episodes/from-data-literacy-to-storytelling-insights-from-the-little-book-of-data Duration seconds: 2067 ## Resource In this week's episode of the show, I sit down with Justin Evans, author of The Little Book of Data, to talk about what it means to truly think like a data person. Justin shares insights from his 20-year career in data and advertising, reflecting on why so many professionals struggle to embrace data and how his book helps break down those barriers. We discuss the "four layers of data denial," the qualities that make someone a data person, and the importance of storytelling in making data engaging and useful. Justin also offers stories from Nielsen, Samsung, and beyond to illustrate how data literacy and visualization can create clarity, solve problems, and unlock value. This conversation is both inspiring and practical for anyone working with—or intimidated by—data. Subscribe to the PolicyViz Podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Become a patron of the PolicyViz Podcast [https://patreon.com/policyviz?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink] for as little as a buck a month Check out Justin's book, The Little Book of Data [https://amzn.to/4ndjDmz]. Follow me on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/jschwabish/?hl=en], LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanschwabish/], Substack [https://jschwabish.substack.com/], Twitter [https://twitter.com/jschwabish], Website [https://policyviz.com/], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/c/JonSchwabish] Email: jon@policyviz.com [jschwabish@gmail.com] ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-policyviz-podcast-1096919/episodes/from-data-literacy-to-storytelling-insights-from-the-little-book-of-data/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-policyviz-podcast-1096919/from-data-literacy-to-storytelling-insights-from-the-little-book-of-data.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.