# Gas Station Heroin? Kratom, Regulation, and Recovery — A Co-Broadcast with the Kratom Sobriety Podcast

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Podcast: [The Poison Lab](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-poison-lab-470516)
Published: 2026-05-24T15:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this special co-broadcast episode, The Poison Lab joins forces with The Kratom Sobriety Podcast for a deeper conversation about kratom, regulation, addiction, recovery, and what poison center data can tell us about real-world harm. Kratom is a plant-derived substance that contains mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine, compounds with opioid-like effects. It is sold in many forms, including powders, capsules, drinks, tonics, and concentrated extracts, often in gas stations, smoke shops, and online. For many people, kratom is encountered with little warning about its risks, including dependence, withdrawal, and toxicity. Study News This episode grew out of our newly published study in Addiction , which examined kratom-related poison center calls across states with different legal approaches: states with bans, states with kratom consumer protection acts, and states with no specific regulation. The study began with a real policy question in Wisconsin: is the public better protected by prohibition, by regulated access, or by leaving kratom largely unregulated? As clinical toxicologists and poison center clinicians, our goal was not to write policy, but to add objective data to a debate that often moves faster than the evidence. Ryan discusses how that question led to a broader debate within medical toxicology and poison center circles: What are the harms of prohibition? What are the risks of unfettered access? Is regulation safer than a ban? And what can poison center data actually tell us about those questions? After the study was published, people reached out from several directions: journalists, policymakers, people concerned about the risks of prohibition, and people who had experienced harm from easy access to kratom. That included the team behind The Kratom Sobriety…

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