# Episode 46: John McCullough - "How to move a stranger" Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-poems-we-made-along-the-way-7032462/episode-46-john-mccullough-how-to-move-a-stranger Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-poems-we-made-along-the-way-7032462/episode-46-john-mccullough-how-to-move-a-stranger.md Podcast: [The Poems We Made Along The Way](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-poems-we-made-along-the-way-7032462) Published: 2026-04-06T04:07:00+00:00 Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/the-poems-we-made-along-the-way/episodes/69d1145b3a785fb94b67d05a Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/66e5c7f558d4122cd96d65c9/e/69d1145b3a785fb94b67d05a/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-poems-we-made-along-the-way-7032462/episodes/episode-46-john-mccullough-how-to-move-a-stranger Duration seconds: 4541 ## Resource On today’s episode of The Poems We Made Along the Way Gregory Kearns speaks to John McCullough about queer joy, neurodivergence, and conveying energy in a poem. John McCullough is a poet who has published five collections including Reckless Paper Birds, Panic Response both published by Penned in the Margins, and most recently Crowd Voltage published by Bloodaxe. John is a Senior Lecturer in creative writing at the University of Brighton. Books and other things Crowd Voltage: https://www.bloodaxebooks.com/ecs/product/crowd-voltage-1392 Panic Response: https://www.pennedinthemargins.co.uk/index.php/2022/02/panic-response/ Reckless Paper Birds: https://www.pennedinthemargins.co.uk/index.php/2019/05/reckless-paper-birds/ You can also use our affiliate link for Bookshop to find most of the books by most of the guests from the show. They are organised into lists for each series. If you use this link, we get a fraction of the money you spend: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/series-six-the-poems-we-made-along-the-way               We’d also recommend enquiring with your local bookshops or libraries as well. Things to read/watch/listen/etc in relationship to this interview: David Tait interviews John McCullough: https://poetrybusiness.co.uk/david-tait-interviews-john-mccullough/ S1 Episode 15: Playfulness | Persistence – with John McCullough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3OyfhnwnSE The Usual Make sure you don’t miss future episodes by subscribing and if you enjoyed this episode consider sharing it with a friend or anyone else you think might also like it. Theme tune: Joe Chesterman-March who can be found here: https://joecm.co.uk      Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/ThePoemsWeMade Hosted… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-poems-we-made-along-the-way-7032462/episodes/episode-46-john-mccullough-how-to-move-a-stranger/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-poems-we-made-along-the-way-7032462/episode-46-john-mccullough-how-to-move-a-stranger.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.