# #145: CIA Whistleblower John Kiriakou: “If they want you, they will get you”

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Podcast: [The Pocket with Chris Griffin](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-pocket-with-chris-griffin-6782020)
Published: 2026-07-06T12:58:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 4390

## Resource

John Kiriakou joins us on The Pocket today. We deep dive on how the CIA are controlling us. We discuss Jeffrey Epstein, Andrew Bustamante, 911, and how every day civilians are being watched by the CIA and government. I have the greatest podcast school in the world. Apply to join PodPro: https://thepodpro.com/apply Get your free copy of The Podcast Toolkit: https://thepodpro.com/toolkit Follow Chris: https://www.instagram.com/morechrisgriffin/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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