# #137: Alfie Robertson: The collapse of ambition in Australia

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Podcast: [The Pocket with Chris Griffin](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-pocket-with-chris-griffin-6782020)
Published: 2026-05-11T23:03:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 4702

## Resource

Alfie returns to the show. Is there a reason why all successful people are leaving Australia? We deep dive into the reasons we both absolutely love the country and have desires of raising our children there, however it is not conducive to growth and support of your big wild dreams. Enjoy. Try Roll completely free for one month with the link below: https://www.rolltoreel.com/chris Follow Alfie: https://www.instagram.com/alfiegetshard/ Apply to work with me to build your podcast and personal brand: https://thepodpro.com/apply Chapters: 00:00 Why haven’t you left Australia? 05:00 Importance of being exposed to the world in person 12:00 The problem with global comparison 17:20 Accepting the bad with the good 25:00 Alfie’s reasoning behind pivoting in his life and business 34:20 Back when Chris and Alfie started living together 36:30 Realisation’s from Alfie’s dad getting sick 41:00 Navigating friends with so much growth in life 43:50 Chris & Alfie unpacking Christianity and religion 49:30 Where Australia plays a role for Alfie 55:00 Importance of aligning your environment 01:01:00 Setting sail on months of travel 01:03:00 The problem with creating status and fame 01:12:30 The slippery slope of chasing externally Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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