# #133: Mark Rolton: Smart People Win In Moments Like This

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Podcast: [The Pocket with Chris Griffin](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-pocket-with-chris-griffin-6782020)
Published: 2026-04-13T20:48:00+00:00
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## Resource

Mark Rolton returns on the show and this time we dove deep on ego, parenting, the cost of success and where it becomes to far, the opportunity inside the scary landscape of the world, his views on Trump and so much more. Mark is one of the biggest property moguls in Australia and has sat beside some of the biggest names in the world. His wisdom is quite profound and he is one of my favourite people to sit down with on the show. Enjoy. Follow Mark: https://www.instagram.com/markrolton/ Follow Chris: https://www.instagram.com/morechrisgriffin/ Work with Chris to build your podcast and personal brand: https://thepodpro.com/apply Chapters: 00:00 Off air discussion 05:00 Intro: The success beyond dollar signs 10:00 The illogical pursuit of beyond $400m 15:30 A profound deep dive on EGO 28:15 Mark’s unique way of parenting 37:30 Mark challenges Chris on his relationship views 45:40 Why do you make your daughter skip class? 49:00 The problem with parenting and the system right now 57:00 The importance of removing the noise 01:08:00 The characteristics that are important in men and women 01:19:00 The number one thing that creates opportunity (people are scared) 01:25:20 Mark’s thoughts on Trumps agenda 01:28:00 Mark’s relationship with Donald Trump 01:32:00 How to capitalise in the current climate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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