# Think Bigger: A Conversation with Michael Wyland, Owner/Partner at Sumption & Wyland

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Podcast: [The PM Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-pm-podcast-1211123)
Published: 2026-07-24T23:19:27+00:00
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## Resource

Michael Wyland is a nonprofit governance expert, consultant, executive coach, writer, and partner in Sumption & Wyland. For more than four decades, Michael has worked across government, business, healthcare, and the nonprofit sector. His career has taken him from Capitol Hill and the oil and gas industry to nonprofit leadership, strategic planning, board governance, executive coaching, and organizational consulting. Michael has advised more than 100 nonprofit associations and charities, worked with dozens of hospitals and healthcare organizations, and presented more than 200 workshops, seminars, and keynote addresses. He also wrote more than 400 articles and features for The Nonprofit Quarterly, where he served as a consulting editor and editorial advisory board member. In this episode, we talk about Michael’s path from his newspaper route to a career in nonprofit consulting, the challenges of board leadership, and what his relationships with philanthropist T. Denny Sanford and his step-grandmother Margaret Towsley taught him about wealth, responsibility, and legacy.

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