# Turning Failure Into Faith and Fortune

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Podcast: [The Playbook With David Meltzer](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-playbook-with-david-meltzer-500738)
Published: 2026-05-09T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In today’s episode, I sit down with former NFL players Julius Thomas and Bronson Kaufusi, along with entrepreneur and investor Frank Perdomo, for a conversation about community, faith, fulfillment, and impact. We talk about why culture starts with people, how the Pro Athlete Community helps athletes prepare for life beyond the game, and why success without fulfillment can still leave you empty. Julius shares how obedience shaped his unlikely path from college basketball to the NFL, Bronson opens up about identity after injury, and Frank reflects on the failure that strengthened his faith and changed the way he invests in people.

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