# Trump is ‘stuck in a stalemate’ in Iran (with Leon Panetta) | The Conversation

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Podcast: [The Playbook Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-playbook-podcast-53549)
Published: 2026-05-10T09:00:00+00:00
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Leon Panetta, former Defense Secretary and CIA director under President Obama, joins Dasha Burns to assess the U.S. conflict with Iran, warning that unclear objectives, a closed Strait of Hormuz and uncertain nuclear negotiations could leave the U.S. stuck in a prolonged war. Plus, Panetta defends President Biden’s handling of the Israel/Gaza conflict but says Biden “should have been much tougher” in providing weapons for Ukraine. Leave us a voicemail or shoot us a text with your questions for our first anniversary special: 202-643-1536.

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