# Seed Oils, Lizzo, and the 75-Year-Old Vegan Who Puts Us All to Shame S03E13

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Podcast: [The Plant Based News Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-plant-based-news-podcast-1121437)
Published: 2025-08-18T14:30:59+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2794

## Resource

In this episode, we dive into three hot conversations rocking the plant-based world. First, we tackle the seed oil panic, are they really toxic, or is it just the latest scapegoat? Dr. Matthew Nagra joins Rich Roll to separate facts from fear. Then, we unpack Lizzo’s controversial claims about quitting veganism, needing animal protein, and blaming fake meat for fatigue. And finally, we celebrate the unstoppable Chef Babette, the 75-year-old raw-food powerhouse showing the world what aging on plants can really look like. This episode is part science, part culture critique, and part inspiration, with one unifying message: don’t believe everything you’re told about food.

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