# #154 - Firas Modad - Who Actually Runs The American War Machine?

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Podcast: [The Peter McCormack Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-peter-mccormack-show-525419)
Published: 2026-03-06T18:22:00+00:00
Episode link: https://whatbitcoindid.libsyn.com/154-firas-modad-who-actually-runs-the-american-war-machine
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The war in the Middle East is usually discussed as a military conflict. In this interview, Firas Modad argues the real consequences are far wider. We discuss how escalation could spread through energy markets, shipping lanes and commodity prices - and why the economic effects of war may hit far beyond the battlefield. Firas also explains how political incentives, donor networks and foreign policy alignments shape decisions in Washington, and why the incentives behind modern wars often look very different from the public narrative. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 – Why Iran Matters 00:07:25 – Why The West 00:12:17 – Energy Shock Risk 00:20:04 – Iran Endgame Scenarios 00:32:28 – Fog Of War 00:40:26 – Lebanon Expands 00:54:21 – Energy Decides It 01:02:30 – Christian Immigration View 01:08:27 – Debt And Decay 01:13:39 – Bible And Collapse 01:22:09 – Just War Test - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - CONTACT PETE › Website – http://petermccormack.com › Feedback – https://www.petermccormack.com/contact › Email – me@petermccormack.com › Instagram – /mccormack555 › X/Twitter – https://x.com/petermccormack/ CONNECT WITH FIRAS MODAD › X/Twitter – https://x.com/firasmodad › Website – https://www.modadgeopolitics.com/ SPONSORS › IREN - https://www.iren.com/ › Ledger - https://www.ledger.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE › Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/40ruY9K › Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3Wc94Vu › Fountain: https://bit.ly/FountainPM › YouTube: https://bit.ly/YouTube_PM › Rumble: https://bit.ly/RumblePM FILMED BY CURTIS TAYLOR › https://www.c…

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