# Episode 4: Never Quite as it Seems

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Podcast: [The Persistence](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-persistence-7020722)
Published: 2024-09-20T16:56:41+00:00
Episode link: https://obsessivelycurious.substack.com/p/episode-4-never-quite-as-it-seems
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## Resource

In Episode 4 of The Persistence podcast, Angélica Cordero delves into the complexities of historical research, including biases, gaps, and the laborious efforts of preserving and interpreting sources. She touches on personal anecdotes, the overlooked roles of marginalized groups, and how figures like Olympe de Gouges and Olaudah Equiano fought against inequality. The episode also covers the Haitian Revolution, highlighting how lost and fragmented histories paint an incomplete picture of our collective past. Angélica emphasizes the importance of messy, raw narratives over sanitized history, urging listeners to question and explore history's hidden corners. This episode was written by and produced by Angélica Cordero, with a little help from ChatGPT. Our theme song is Don’t Kid Yourself Baby by Fold , used with their blessings. Podcast artwork for The Persistence features Mexican-American activist Jovita Idar and was created by Tamra Collins of Sunroot Studio . Resources For Fellow Wascally Wabbits The Blue Stockings: A History of the First Women’s Movement by Susannah Gibson (Book) Women, Gender, and Enlightenment edited by Sara Knott and Barbara Taylor (Book) The World of the Salons by (Book) The Women’s History of the Modern World by Rosalind Miles (Book) The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano (Book) An African American and Latinx History of the United States by Paul Ortiz (Book) Toussaint Louverture and the American Civil War: The Promise and Peril of a Second Haitian Revolution by Matthew Clavin (Book) Haitian Revolutions - Crash Course (Video) Support If you haven’t please yet, subscribe and rate our feed in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And even better, tell your friends. Follow us on Instagram , TikTok , and share your though…

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