# 577 – Enskilled Knowledge & Education of Attention, Carl Woods Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-perception-action-podcast-745451/577-enskilled-knowledge-education-of-attention-carl-woods Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-perception-action-podcast-745451/577-enskilled-knowledge-education-of-attention-carl-woods.md Podcast: [The Perception & Action Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-perception-action-podcast-745451) Published: 2026-06-23T04:30:00+00:00 Episode link: https://perceptionaction.com/577-2/ Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/perceptionactionpodcast/577_-_Interview_w_Carl.mp3?dest-id=274612 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-perception-action-podcast-745451/episodes/577-enskilled-knowledge-education-of-attention-carl-woods Duration seconds: 3133 ## Resource Carl Woods from the University of Queensland and I discuss the concept of "enskilled knowledge" and the critical difference between educating attention (showing someone where to look) and the knowledge that comes from doing a thing in a place. Carl gives a ton of wonderful examples from wine tasting and surfing to handing down family recipes and navigating boats across an open ocean! Links: https://hmns.uq.edu.au/profile/9322/carl-woods http://perceptionaction.com/ My Research Gate Page (pdfs of my articles) My ASU Web page Podcast Facebook page (videos, pics, etc) Subscribe in iOS/Apple Subscribe in Anroid/Google Support the podcast and receive bonus content Credits: The Flamin' Groovies – Shake\Some Action Mark Lanegan - Saint Louis Elegy ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-perception-action-podcast-745451/episodes/577-enskilled-knowledge-education-of-attention-carl-woods/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-perception-action-podcast-745451/577-enskilled-knowledge-education-of-attention-carl-woods.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.