# States vs. Feds – who controls the border?

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Podcast: [The Parliament](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-parliament-7817004)
Published: 2026-05-25T08:30:00+00:00
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The Parliament makes confusing global geopolitics and American national security accessible. Not just acronyms but explanations. In this episode, Darion invites Heritage Foundation Border Security and Immigration Expert, Brandy Perez Carbaugh to the show. If you want to follow more of what we are doing in the NatSec space at Heritage, sign up for our biweekly newsletter (I promise it’s a newsletter you’ll actually want to read): https://www9.heritage.org/Davis-Dispatch-Newsletter_Subscription-Page.html

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