# Maybe, do the opposite

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Podcast: [The Panel](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233)
Published: 2025-10-31T17:58:58+00:00
Episode link: https://panelpodcast.com/25
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AI dev is changing rapidly, and... AI dev is rapidly changing how we build websites and apps. Brian and Justin wrestle with this new reality and discuss the different phases of a startup, how indies can cultivate brand loyalty, and when you should maybe do the opposite of what everyone else is doing. Timestamps: (00:00) - What does Justin do all day? (00:14) - Welcome to The Panel (04:05) - The phases of startups (20:04) - AI coding might be moving away from spec driven development (27:52) - The future of products is shifting regularly (31:46) - Building a website dynamically with AI (46:41) - How much brand loyalty do we have in the age of AI? (01:13:45) - Singing the counter melody YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com 📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links mentioned in this episode Panel Animated intro Hillcharts Cheeky Pint interview with Anthropic founder Derek Sivers article Humanoid robot OpenAI acquires app that watches you Duer Jeans Plain English podcast

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