# Double duty with Aaron Francis

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Podcast: [The Panel](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233)
Published: 2025-10-18T00:50:12+00:00
Episode link: https://panelpodcast.com/23
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## Resource

Aaron Francis joins The Panel this week to talk about entrepreneurship, programming, and parenting. We chatted about how personal experiences shape our business journeys, the evolution of programming tools, and the importance of identifying market signals for success. Timestamps: (00:16) - Aaron Francis joins The Panel (02:06) - How we're teaching our kids about programming? (09:36) - The gap between AI code and design (16:04) - How much AI are we using to write newsletters? (20:22) - The web feels like it's back (21:26) - Signals your business is working (43:47) - Navigating when to pivot (52:56) - What would you say to grade 12 class? (01:12:26) - How to decide what product to work on next (01:22:12) - Recording live streams of working sessions (01:35:35) - Worrying about ideal customers vs just trying stuff YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com 📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links mentioned in this episode Mostly Technical Aaron Francis Ian Landsman Dancing Without A Partner – Signal v. Noise Paper – design, share, ship Newsletter - Aaron Francis Phil Vischer - Wikipedia ThePrimeagen - YouTub e

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