# Working In The Trade As A Professional Athlete

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Podcast: [The Painting & Decorating Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-painting-decorating-show-1249393)
Published: 2026-03-03T17:55:01+00:00
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## Resource

Joel Bardall and Todd Von Joel talk to tradespeople who have had careers as professional athletes. Marlie Packer OBE talks about her incredible Rugby Union career playing for England (Saracens, Bath, Wasps) and winning two World Cups, while also working on the tools thoughout her playing career as a Plumber. Danny 'Cassius' Connor talks about his professional boxing career and career progression in construction which has seen him win titles and take on the role of Site Manager & Crane Operator. Joel and Todd talk about their own (lack of) sporting abilities and also share some exciting news about Fix Fest 2026.

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