# Painting the Future: VR, Murals & Working Around the World

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Podcast: [The Painting & Decorating Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-painting-decorating-show-1249393)
Published: 2026-05-19T17:00:02+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2088

## Resource

Joel Bardall and Todd Von Joel are joined by travelling mural artist Kathleen Dieux to explore how she uses VR technology to design and deliver large-scale artwork around the world. They discuss her creative process, pricing, materials and standout experiences from working internationally, before Joel and TVJ debate whether they’d ever use VR in their own work and the appeal of travelling abroad for jobs.

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