# America's Biggest DEFEAT Since Vietnam? - Prof. Paul Rogers' GRIPPING Interview

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Podcast: [The Owen Jones Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-owen-jones-podcast-2550771)
Published: 2026-04-20T09:24:06+00:00
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