# The Price of Policy: Taxes, Tariffs, and Capital Flows

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Podcast: [The Outthinking Investor with Daleep Singh](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-outthinking-investor-with-daleep-singh-4270349)
Published: 2025-09-09T10:02:00+00:00
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Fiscal policy shifts, from taxes to tariffs, are steering global capital and trade flows. The US, for instance, is attracting investments despite the tariff headlines—illustrating how the impact of these policies continues to evolve. In a dynamic policy environment, taxes and tariffs could create new implications for asset classes, sectors, and market structures. This episode of The Outthinking Investor explores macro implications from taxes and tariffs, how policy changes are shaping the way investors allocate capital, and why economic growth could be more resilient against higher tariffs than in the past. Our guests are: Douglas Holtz-Eakin, President of the American Action Forum and former Director of the Congressional Budget Office Kimberly Clausing, professor of tax law and policy at UCLA School of Law and former lead economist in the US Treasury's Office of Tax Policy Jeffrey Young, Head of Investment Strategy for PGIM's quant team Do you have any comments, suggestions, or topics you would like us to cover? Email us at thought.leadership@pgim.com , or fill out our survey at PGIM.com/podcast/outthinking-investor . To hear more from PGIM, tune into Speaking of Alternatives , available on Spotify , Apple , Amazon Music , and other podcast platforms. Explore our entire collection of podcasts at PGIM.com .

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