# They think it's all over. Society: is there such a thing? A White House cage fight.

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Podcast: [The Other Hand](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-hand-2941684)
Published: 2026-06-16T04:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/the-other-hand-with-jim.power-and-chris.johns/episodes/6a2f9ab7e6540bec0fa850c5
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