# The Other 22 Hours Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570.md RSS feed: https://feeds.redcircle.com/25702579-c239-4f18-9846-0535a20082ac Official site: https://redcircle.com/shows/the-other-22-hours Author: Michaela Anne, Aaron Shafer-Haiss Episodes: 157 ## Resource An exploration of the creative life, lived in the in-between. A sanctuary for the creative spirit in a results-obsessed world. Moving beyond the highlight reel, hosts and working musicians Aaron Shafer-Haiss and Michaela Anne facilitate intimate, artist-to-artist conversations with renowned musicians, authors, visual artists and actors about the grit required to sustain a life in the arts. From navigating doubt to finding stillness, this is the reality of the work. Unfiltered. ## Machine-readable JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-other-22-hours-6074570 Markdown: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570.md ## Episodes - [Lukas Nelson on shedding expectations, the antidote to egos, and training like an Olympian.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/lukas-nelson-on-shedding-expectations-the-antidote-to-egos-and-training-like-an-olympian) — 2026-07-01T11:00:42+00:00 - [Judy Collins on collective dreams, keeping the channel clear, and why artist's don't retire.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/judy-collins-on-collective-dreams-keeping-the-channel-clear-and-why-artist-s-don-t-retire) — 2026-06-24T11:00:46+00:00 - [Annie & Cranston Clements on musical lineage, tour-life advocacy, and 150 hits of acid.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/annie-cranston-clements-on-musical-lineage-tour-life-advocacy-and-150-hits-of-acid) — 2026-06-17T11:00:19+00:00 - [Heather Mae on social justice songwriting, the hedonic treadmill, and hearing god during a massage.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/heather-mae-on-social-justice-songwriting-the-hedonic-treadmill-and-hearing-god-during-a-massage) — 2026-06-10T11:00:36+00:00 - [Matraca Berg on the Nashville Hit Machine, streaming economics, and getting busted by bro country.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/matraca-berg-on-the-nashville-hit-machine-streaming-economics-and-getting-busted-by-bro-country) — 2026-06-03T11:00:34+00:00 - [Rob Moose on the feast-or-famine mindset, songs as love letters, and remaining child-like.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/rob-moose-on-the-feast-or-famine-mindset-songs-as-love-letters-and-remaining-child-like) — 2026-05-27T11:00:20+00:00 - [Michaela Anne + Aaron Shafer-Haiss on intuition vs assumption, creative ownership, and vulnerability as a faucet.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/michaela-anne-aaron-shafer-haiss-on-intuition-vs-assumption-creative-ownership-and-vulnerability-as-a-faucet) — 2026-05-20T11:00:52+00:00 - [Molly Tuttle on genre fluidity, artistic anxiety, and micro-managing travel routing.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/molly-tuttle-on-genre-fluidity-artistic-anxiety-and-micro-managing-travel-routing) — 2026-05-13T11:00:58+00:00 - [Asleep at the Wheel on artistic identity, the vow of poverty, and why the geographic imperative is BS.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/asleep-at-the-wheel-on-artistic-identity-the-vow-of-poverty-and-why-the-geographic-imperative-is-bs) — 2026-05-06T11:00:55+00:00 - [Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (Jeff Hanna) on a 60-year touring career, records with hair on them, and the joy in folding laundry.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/nitty-gritty-dirt-band-jeff-hanna-on-a-60-year-touring-career-records-with-hair-on-them-and-the-joy-in-folding-laundry) — 2026-04-29T11:00:17+00:00 - [Writing for the soul vs. writing for the brief, from writers to editors.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/writing-for-the-soul-vs-writing-for-the-brief-from-writers-to-editors) — 2026-04-22T11:00:40+00:00 - [Derek Trucks on collaborative marriage, mentorship, and the healing power of a soundcheck poodle.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/derek-trucks-on-collaborative-marriage-mentorship-and-the-healing-power-of-a-soundcheck-poodle) — 2026-04-15T11:00:42+00:00 - [Suzy Bogguss on pioneering the indie path, the quality of community, and disgusting freezers.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/suzy-bogguss-on-pioneering-the-indie-path-the-quality-of-community-and-disgusting-freezers) — 2026-04-08T11:00:06+00:00 - [Amythyst Kiah on psychic sovereignty, success envy, and the self-improvement doom loop.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/amythyst-kiah-on-psychic-sovereignty-success-envy-and-the-self-improvement-doom-loop) — 2026-04-01T11:00:42+00:00 - [James Victore on radical integrity, questioning authority, and getting paid $20,000 to shut up.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/james-victore-on-radical-integrity-questioning-authority-and-getting-paid-20-000-to-shut-up) — 2026-03-25T11:00:18+00:00 - [S.G. Goodman on scarcity mindset, manual labor, and the art of letting go.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/s-g-goodman-on-scarcity-mindset-manual-labor-and-the-art-of-letting-go) — 2026-03-18T11:00:03+00:00 - [Hunter Hayes on identity beyond music, high-efficiency routines, and radical vulnerability.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/hunter-hayes-on-identity-beyond-music-high-efficiency-routines-and-radical-vulnerability) — 2026-03-11T11:00:40+00:00 - [Butch Walker on accidental careers, the ego-driven climb, and 'shut up and sing'.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/butch-walker-on-accidental-careers-the-ego-driven-climb-and-shut-up-and-sing) — 2026-03-04T12:00:45+00:00 - [Kathleen Edwards on losing perspective, winning the lottery, and 'Quitters'.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/kathleen-edwards-on-losing-perspective-winning-the-lottery-and-quitters) — 2025-12-31T06:00:00+00:00 - [How UMAW is leading the labor movement to save the music industry.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/how-umaw-is-leading-the-labor-movement-to-save-the-music-industry) — 2025-12-29T12:00:00+00:00 - [Chely Wright on strategic reinvention, the "pink haze" of losing everything, and 10,000 sunrises.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/chely-wright-on-strategic-reinvention-the-pink-haze-of-losing-everything-and-10-000-sunrises) — 2025-12-24T12:00:00+00:00 - [Jim Keller on the crash and burn, ego death, and the magic of jam sessions.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/jim-keller-on-the-crash-and-burn-ego-death-and-the-magic-of-jam-sessions) — 2025-12-17T12:00:00+00:00 - [Max Wanger on listening to the lull, asking questions, and staying curious.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/max-wanger-on-listening-to-the-lull-asking-questions-and-staying-curious) — 2025-12-10T12:00:00+00:00 - [Raye Zaragoza on healing the hustle wound, decentralizing, and patreon.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/raye-zaragoza-on-healing-the-hustle-wound-decentralizing-and-patreon) — 2025-12-03T12:00:00+00:00 - [Kris Delmhorst on invisible work, trusting slow seasons, and the myth of being seen.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/kris-delmhorst-on-invisible-work-trusting-slow-seasons-and-the-myth-of-being-seen) — 2025-11-26T12:00:00+00:00 ## Actions Episode pages expose an explicit `request_transcript` action. 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