# Episode 637 - Ben Allen || Someone Has To Die

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Podcast: [The Origins Foundation Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-origins-foundation-podcast-2229143)
Published: 2026-04-14T07:05:00+00:00
Episode link: https://theoriginsfoundation.org/
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Duration seconds: 4142

## Resource

There is belief in the hunting industry space that we do not have a cogent argument to defend the "ethical killing" of animals. How can we defend that killing animals is ok? Well there is one guy who has taken it upon himself as a mission to figure that out. Robbie is joined by Dr. Ben Allen, a conservation scientist in Australia working in wildlife management and living the dream - going camping, fishing, hunting and predator controlling for a day job. He is also the lead author in a number of articles tied to ethical arguments around intentional animal killing. The papers that he has written will make your head spin, Listen in and understand Ben’s rationale around the ethical killing of animals. Do you have questions we can answer? Send it via DM on IG or through email at info@theoriginsfoundation.org Support our Conservation Club Members! Garry Kelly Safaris: https://garrykellysafaris.com/ Land Limited: https://www.land.limited/ Alberta Pronghorn Connectivity Project: https://theoriginsfoundation.org/conservation-projects/alberta-pronghorn-connectivity-project/ See more from Blood Origins: https://bit.ly/BloodOrigins_Subscribe Music: Migration by Ian Post (Winter Solstice), licensed through artlist.io This podcast is brought to you by Bushnell, who believes in providing the highest quality, most reliable & affordable outdoor products on the market. Your performance is their passion. https://www.bushnell.com This podcast is also brought to you by Silencer Central, who believes in making buying a silencer simple and they handle the paperwork for you. Shop the largest silencer dealer in the world. Get started today! https://www.silencercentral.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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