# The Courage to Start with the Ending - with Keith Miller and Courtney Corona

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Podcast: [The One Inside: An Internal Family Systems (IFS) podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-one-inside-an-internal-family-systems-ifs-podcast-1169258)
Published: 2026-02-13T05:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

On today's episode I chat with Keith and Courtney, cohosts of the podcast Tripping Over Love . Keith is licensed therapist and a Level 3 IFS Consultant, and Courtney is journalist and podcaster. They joined me to share their beautiful, messy love story . We dive into the courage it takes to start over, the "trauma" of the dating apps, and how they've used Internal Family Systems (IFS) and psychedelics to navigate the "breakups, breakdowns, and breakthroughs" of their relationship . We discuss: Starting relationships with truth instead of performance. Radical transparency — "starting with the ending" — as a foundation for trust. Why telling the truth early can save a relationship later. Loving someone while still grieving a past life. Speaking for parts instead of from them in moments of conflict. Finding the courage to try again after loss and heartbreak. Dating is messy: Getting honest about the "thrift store shopping" energy of dating apps. The difference between loving someone and being "in love." IFS as "four-wheel drive": Turning toward the model when relationships get stuck. How psychedelic-assisted journeys helped unlock grief — and create space to love again. Extended Interview At the end of our chat, I asked them each for one piece of advice for couples. This extended interviews is available for paid subscribers over on The One Inside Substack . Connect with Keith and Courtney: Podcast: Tripping Over Love Substack About The One Inside I started this podcast to help spread IFS out into the world and make the model more accessible to everyone. Seven years later, that's still at the heart of all we do. Join The One Inside Substack community for bonus conversations, extended interviews, meditations, and more. Find Self-Led merch at The One Inside store . Listen to…

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