# 193. The Hardest Part of OCD Isn't What You Think (No One Talks About This)

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Podcast: [The OCD Whisperer Podcast with Kristina Orlova](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ocd-whisperer-podcast-with-kristina-orlova-1214844)
Published: 2026-07-11T15:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2375

## Resource

Ever wonder why people with OCD can seem incredibly strong... yet still feel completely alone? In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova speaks with Tom Smalley, MS, CMPC—mental performance consultant, OCD advocate, and speaker. Together, they explore the hidden impact of OCD stigma, why uncertainty is at the heart of OCD recovery, and how community, education, and self-compassion can change lives. Tom opens up about: • His OCD diagnosis at age 16 and living with up to 15 hours of compulsions a day • How ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention) helped him reclaim his life • Why embracing uncertainty—not eliminating it—is the key to recovery • His powerful story of experiencing discrimination because of OCD and transforming pain into purpose This conversation also dives into: • Why reassurance can accidentally keep OCD alive • How everyday phrases like "I'm so OCD" contribute to stigma • Why community and advocacy play such an important role in healing • The connection between sports, mental health, perfectionism, and OCD • How choosing education over anger helps reduce stigma and create lasting change If you've ever felt misunderstood because of your OCD—or wondered how to support someone who struggles with it—this conversation will leave you feeling seen, understood, and hopeful. Whether you're navigating OCD yourself or supporting someone you love, this episode offers practical insights, encouragement, and a powerful reminder that you are never alone in your recovery. 📲 About Tom Smalley (guest): • MS, CMPC—mental performance consultant, OCD advocate, and speaker • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/s2s_smalls/ • Website: https://www.struggleintostrength.com/ ✂️ TIMESTAMPS: [00:00] – What Do Most People Get Wrong About Supporting Someone with OCD?…

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