# 179. Can DBT Help OCD? What Actually Works (ERP, ICBT & Emotional Regulation Explained)

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Podcast: [The OCD Whisperer Podcast with Kristina Orlova](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ocd-whisperer-podcast-with-kristina-orlova-1214844)
Published: 2026-04-10T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://ocdwhisperer.podbean.com/e/179-i-will-change-this-later/
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## Resource

Does Your Brain Feel Like It’s Been Hijacked? In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova speaks with Maggie Duret, LPCC, an OCD specialist who integrates DBT, ERP, and ICBT into her practice. Together, they explore how to manage the "Red Alert" of high-distress OCD and the specific nuances of moral and religious scrupulosity. Maggie opens up about: • The Misdiagnosis Trap: Her journey from years of being treated for "generalized anxiety" to finally recognizing her moral scrupulosity. • The Weight of Being "Good": Her personal experience with excessive prayer, confession, and the "Just Right" trap of finding a perfect path. • Healing Layers: How ERP was her initial game-changer, while ICBT provided a deeper level of recovery and trust in herself. • Transitioning Roles: Moving from a DBT background with personality disorders to becoming a passionate OCD advocate and clinician. Whether you’re navigating OCD yourself or supporting someone who is, this episode offers high-impact tools and the reminder that recovery is about building a life worth living. 📲 About Maggie Durret (guest): • LPCC and OCD specialist • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/northlightcounseling/ • Northlight Counseling: https://www.northlightcounseling.org/ • Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/maggie-duret-saint-paul-mn/1498178 ✂️ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 – Is it Anxiety or Something Sneakier? (The Diagnosis Trap) 03:40 – Inside the Mind of a "High-Functioning" Catholic with OCD 06:36 – When Faith Becomes a Medical Emergency (Scrupulosity) 08:49 – ICBT vs. ERP: Which Therapy Actually Works for You? 14:50 – Why Your Nervous System "Hijacks" Your Recovery 19:10 – The TIPP Hack: How to Reboot Your Brain in 30 Seconds 25:52 – Listening to Senses Over "Internal Ala…

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