# 173. How long does OCD RECOVERY take? The 4 to 8 month roadmap EXPLAINED!

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Podcast: [The OCD Whisperer Podcast with Kristina Orlova](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ocd-whisperer-podcast-with-kristina-orlova-1214844)
Published: 2026-02-27T14:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Is Perfectionism Hijacking Your Values? 🧠 In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova speaks with Dr. Marisa Mazza, PsyD. Together, they explore the final pieces of the ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy) puzzle: values and committed action, and how to integrate these tools into a long-term recovery journey. Dr. Mazza opens up about: • The critical difference between "Values" (directions) and "Goals" (destinations) • How perfectionism can turn your guiding principles into rigid, impossible rules • The "60–70% Rule"—why aiming for "good enough" is the secret to avoiding burnout • A breakdown of the 6 core processes of ACT: Presence, Values, Committed Action, Self-as-Context, Defusion, and Willingness Whether you’re navigating OCD yourself or supporting someone, this episode offers a clear, compassionate roadmap for moving away from a life ruled by fear and toward a life led by what truly matters to you. 📲 About Marisa Mazza (guest): • PsyD, a faculty member of the Behavioral Therapy Training Institute, author of The ACT Workbook for OCD • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drmazza/ • Web Page: https://www.choicetherapy.net/team ✂️ TIMESTAMPS: [00:00] – The "Success" Trap: Why your goals might actually be feeding your OCD. [02:01] – The North Star Method: Values vs. Goals (And why the difference is everything). [04:29] – The 60% Rule: How "Good Enough" is the ultimate weapon against perfectionism. [05:55] – The Life Basket Strategy: How to stop OCD from hijacking your entire energy supply. [09:24] – The "Miracle Morning" Test: A 60-second self-reflection to find your true self. [11:58] – The "Itty Bitty Step": How to move forward when you feel completely paralyzed. [14:56] – Courage is Fear Walking: Why you don't need to "feel ready" to start rec…

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