# To Dylan or Not to Dylan? Variety's Chris Willman Joins Me to talk Music that Heals

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Podcast: [The Nicole Sandler Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nicole-sandler-show-1065430)
Published: 2026-06-23T22:24:36+00:00
Episode link: https://nicolesandler.com/6-23-26
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## Resource

Music is the medicine I needed today. Variety's senior music writer and chief critic Chris Willman joins me for a wide-ranging conversation about Bob Dylan's current tour — which I'm catching tonight in Phoenix — the legacy of Clive Davis, Bruce Springsteen's Land of Hope and Dreams run, Taylor Swift, and the new artists worth paying attention to. We also cover Keir Starmer's resignation as UK Prime Minister and what it means (or should mean) for a certain American president who has no intention of following suit. A necessary break from the madness — and a reminder of why music matters more than ever right now. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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