# Emptywheel Fridays with Marcy Wheeler & Nicole Sandler

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Podcast: [The Nicole Sandler Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nicole-sandler-show-1065430)
Published: 2026-05-15T21:43:59+00:00
Episode link: https://nicolesandler.com/5-15-26
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So Trump flew to China, brought Eric and the Nvidia guy instead of any actual China experts, accomplished nothing on Hormuz or Taiwan, got a lecture from Xi about Sparta and Athens, and came home. Marcy Wheeler of emptywheel.net and I spent an hour plus breaking down what it all means — plus Kash Patel snorkeling a war grave, which is exactly as bad as it sounds. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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