# Digby and I Get at the Real Problem — And It's Frightening

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Podcast: [The Nicole Sandler Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nicole-sandler-show-1065430)
Published: 2026-07-07T21:27:48+00:00
Episode link: https://nicolesandler.com/7-7-26
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## Resource

Heather 'Digby' Parton joins me today, and we start with something genuinely moving — a reworked "Star-Spangled Banner" from the Marsh family in England that stopped me in my tracks. From there we go through the wreckage of Trump's July 4th/250th weekend: the Patriot Front marching on the Mall, Doug Burgum's strange comments about it, and the wave of goodwill for America pouring in from other countries while our own government turned the anniversary into a spectacle. We talk about the World Cup controversy Trump inserted himself into, the healthcare system's ongoing failures (including my own frustrating search for real answers), the fallout from Graham Platner's campaign, the controversy around a New York candidate, and a hard conversation about antisemitism that I don't think gets talked about honestly enough. We close with a new poll on what's actually driving DSA primary wins — and where I think our energy needs to go from here. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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