# The NEXT Podcast Episode 43: Learning to Love Life Again

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Podcast: [The Next Podcast: Moving Forward with Grief and Loss](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-next-podcast-moving-forward-with-grief-and-loss-7049767)
Published: 2025-10-23T18:12:05+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jay-cookingham/episodes/The-NEXT-Podcast-Episode-43-Learning-to-Love-Life-Again-e39v1bi
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Duration seconds: 1003

## Resource

This episode explores what it really means to rediscover joy while still honoring loss. Jay shares about a recent men’s conference that reminded him of how universal grief is and how powerful it can be to talk about it honestly. As he reflects on nearly six years since Christine’s passing, Jay wrestles with tension, the sacred space where sorrow and joy coexist. Through scripture, stories, and honest confession, he invites listeners to see that grief and joy aren’t opposites, they’re companions. This episode is about learning to live again, to trust that joy can coexist with sorrow, and to find the courage to keep choosing life, gratitude, and God’s presence, one step at a time. Find out more about me here: https://jaycookingham.com I’m on @buymeacoffee. If you like, even maybe love my podcast, you can buy me a coffee and support me. It’s a simple way of showing your support and help me grow the podcast. Thank you! Here’s the link: buymeacoffee.com/jcdude56t

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