# Patriots OTA takeaways and checking in on Christian Gonzalez and A.J. Brown with Mike Giardi

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Podcast: [The Next Pats Podcast - A Patriots Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-next-pats-podcast-a-patriots-podcast-1110885)
Published: 2026-05-28T21:29:50+00:00
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Phil Perry welcomes in Mike Giardi to break down this week’s Patriots OTA’s, what we should take from the absence of Christian Gonzalez and Kayshon Boutte, and whether the A.J. Brown trade is the done-deal we thought it was. Then, the guys debate Phil’s initial 53-man roster ahead of minicamp.

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