# Lila Rose Vs 20 Year Old | Abortion Debate | #73

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Podcast: [The Next Generation](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-next-generation-7040486)
Published: 2026-04-25T19:21:47+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/elliot-bewick/episodes/Lila-Rose-Vs-20-Year-Old--Abortion-Debate--73-e3if4up
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Is it just a clump of cells, or a baby with human rights? I sat down with pro-life activist Lila Rose for the ULTIMATE abortion debate. When does life begin? What about bodily autonomy? What decides moral worth? It’s deep dive time… Lila on Insta: www.instagram.com/lilaroseofficial Lila on X: https://x.com/LilaGraceRose Check out 321 here: https://321course.com/nextgen Try Jamie AI and use my code ELLIOT to get 20% off: https://www.jamie-ai.com/ CHAPTERS 00:00 Do a zygote and a newborn baby have equal worth? 01:06 Lila’s position 03:02 Is a fetus human? 07:44 ‘But if the baby is still in the womb, it doesn’t have rights’ 10:23 The ‘clump of cells’ argument 16:00 Debating informed consent 22:32 Children need to be taught about life before birth 24:21 ‘But it doesn’t have a heartbeat yet’ 24:48 The burning building dilemma - who would you save? 32:06 Do aborted babies go to heaven? 35:00 Why ‘pro-choice’ isn’t a fair descriptor 35:48 ‘The woman’s right to not be pregnant supersedes the baby’s right to life’ 39:53 Elliot, why do you call yourself pro-choice? 51:13 Can you make a pro-life case without God? 54:03 Is it unrealistic to seek an abortion-free society? 56:22 What about r*pe? 57:09 ‘But they won’t feel anything’ 1:00:11 ‘But it doesn’t look human’ 1:04:03 Abortion is bad for women 1:11:13 Is consent to sex consent to pregnancy? 1:19:52 Should we go back to polygamy? 1:22:05 How would society change if abortion was banned? 1:27:03 Lila’s debate with Justin Waller 1:29:06 Anything we missed? My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elliotbewick/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@elliotbewick X: https://x.com/elliotbewick ABOUT THE NEXT GENERATION: In a world saturated by social media and marked by skyrocketing rates of anxiety, depression, and ADHD among Gen Z, young…

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