# The Art of Pacing

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Podcast: [The Next Big Idea Daily](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-next-big-idea-daily-5988609)
Published: 2026-06-16T08:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

What if the real secret to thriving isn’t pushing harder—it’s learning when to push, when to ease off, and when to recover? Today, science writer Elizabeth Svoboda shares big ideas from The Art of Pacing: A Guide to Balancing Short-Term Demands with Long-Term Thriving, a practical antidote to the “all gas, no brakes” culture of modern work and life. Then we hear some big ideas from Dorie Clark’s The Long Game: How to Be a Long-Term Thinker in a Short-Term World, a reminder that the best moves often look unimpressive in the moment—until they quietly compound. 🎁 Save 20% on a Next Big Idea Club membership when you used code PODCAST at⁠ ⁠nextbigideaclub.com⁠⁠ ✉️ Get big ideas in your inbox with our daily newsletter. Subscribe at⁠ ⁠bookoftheday.nextbigideaclub.com⁠⁠ Sponsored By: Homeserve — Go to ⁠homeserve.com/nbid⁠ to find the plan that’s right for you. FODZYME. — Finally, you can enjoy your favorite foods without the pain. Go to ⁠icaneatagain.com/daily

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