# Jim Bugwadia on why finding a Kubernetes problem is only half the battle for Kyverno users

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Podcast: [The New Stack Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-stack-podcast-1092634)
Published: 2026-04-23T16:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

Graduating within the CNCF marks a major milestone for an open source project, signaling not just technical maturity but strong governance, security practices, and widespread adoption. Kyverno, a Kubernetes policy engine, reached this stage after five years — becoming only the 35th project to progress from sandbox to graduation. As co-founder Jim Bugwadia explains, incubation reflects production readiness and adoption, while graduation validates the project’s long-term sustainability and governance rigor.

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