# How Microsoft is governing thousands of Kubernetes clusters without manual intervention

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Podcast: [The New Stack Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-stack-podcast-1092634)
Published: 2026-05-07T13:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Managing Kubernetes at fleet scale introduces significant complexity, especially as organizations expand from a few clusters to hundreds or thousands across cloud, on-premises, and edge environments. While GitOps remains the dominant model for declarative management, its traditional one-to-one repository-to-cluster approach struggles to handle multi-cluster realities such as global traffic routing, shared secrets, and unified observability. As Stephane Erbrech, Principal Software Engineer at Microsoft explains, the challenge shifts from deployment to governance—maintaining consistency, security, and compliance across a vast distributed system without manual intervention.

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