# Can you make Kubernetes invisible? Here's why AWS is on a mission to do it.

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Podcast: [The New Stack Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-stack-podcast-1092634)
Published: 2026-04-14T17:35:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of The New Stack Makers, Jesse Butler, principal product manager for AWS Elastic Kubernetes Service, shares his vision for simplifying cloud-native computing. Since joining AWS in 2020, Butler has focused on making Kubernetes easier to use, emphasizing open-source as a democratizing force. He highlights the role of the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF) in standardizing and governing open ecosystems while balancing community-driven innovation with commercial contributions.

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