# Episode 338: Doug Robinson of HELD. / The Sleeping Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-scene-1219383/episode-338-doug-robinson-of-held-the-sleeping Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-scene-1219383/episode-338-doug-robinson-of-held-the-sleeping.md Podcast: [The New Scene](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-scene-1219383) Published: 2026-06-15T12:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://thenewscene.podbean.com/e/episode-338-doug-robinson-of-held-the-sleeping/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/ri4nmwibz62w7xan/TNS338Final.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-new-scene-1219383/episodes/episode-338-doug-robinson-of-held-the-sleeping Duration seconds: 4645 ## Resource Keith sits down with Doug Robinson to discuss growing up in New Jersey, discovering the local scene, joining The Sleeping at just 18 years old, the early days of the band, signing with Victory Records and the band's experience on the label. We also discuss the formation of HELD. by The Sleeping members Doug Robinson and Sal Mignano with Doug stepping into the guitar player and vocalist role, how the band linked up with Josh Eppard of Coheed and Cambria as drummer for the band, the making of their debut LP "Grey", the creative process and themes behind the LP, recording with Jon Markson, signing with MNRK Heavy, what's next for HELD. and more. Intro - 0:00 - 5:13Doug Robinson Interview - 5:14 - 1:17:25 ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-new-scene-1219383/episodes/episode-338-doug-robinson-of-held-the-sleeping/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-scene-1219383/episode-338-doug-robinson-of-held-the-sleeping.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.