# Artist Managers on Music Videos, Artist Development, Long-term Strategy and True Fandom Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039/artist-managers-on-music-videos-artist-development-long-term-strategy-and-true-fandom Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039/artist-managers-on-music-videos-artist-development-long-term-strategy-and-true-fandom.md Podcast: [The New Music Business with Ari Herstand](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039) Published: 2026-02-25T05:05:00+00:00 Episode link: https://aristake.com/slush-management Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/thenewmusicbusiness/e/699e6ba043ceb0105da2625d/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039/episodes/artist-managers-on-music-videos-artist-development-long-term-strategy-and-true-fandom Duration seconds: 3920 ## Resource This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Aaron Greene and Neal O’Connor of Slush Management, the artist-first team behind Porter Robinson, Eden, Jai Wolf, and more. Slush has helped their artists generate billions of streams, sell millions of tickets, and craft long-term careers rooted in creativity rather than quick wins. With 15 years of experience across touring, branding, and global fan development, they’ve become leaders in sustainable artist strategy and innovative experiential storytelling. In this episode, Ari Neal and Aaron dive into what modern artist development truly looks like. From building immersive worlds to cultivating real, lasting fan communities beyond vanity metrics, Neal and Aaron share how managers decide when an artist is ready for representation, why social media isn’t the only path to growth, and how long-term strategy beats short-term virality every time. The conversation also covers label paths (self-release, indie, major), when to tour, how support slots actually happen, and the importance of meaningful experiences. Hint: music videos might be more important than most folks realize.  https://www.instagram.com/slushmgmt/ 05:58 – What “world-building” means for modern artists 08:12 – How Porter Robinson developed his immersive universe 12:00 – Building an entire festival world with Disney-level partners 16:00 – Artist development: when an artist is ready for management 18:20 – Why immediacy is a trap & long-term growth matters 20:35 – Deepening 100 true fans vs. chasing viral moments 27:45 – Majors vs. indies vs. self-releasing: what actually works 31:55 – The real purpose of music videos in 2025 36:50 – Touring strategy: when to headline, when to support 39:20 – How artists actually get support slots 42:55 – W… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039/episodes/artist-managers-on-music-videos-artist-development-long-term-strategy-and-true-fandom/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039/artist-managers-on-music-videos-artist-development-long-term-strategy-and-true-fandom.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.