# An exit talk with UNRWA's Philippe Lazzarini | Rethinking Humanitarianism

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Podcast: [The New Humanitarian](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-humanitarian-1146231)
Published: 2026-04-02T10:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/podcast
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Philippe Lazzarini has ended his term as head of UNRWA, the UN agency that provides essential services to Palestinians. In an exit interview, Lazzarini describes "the most brutal experience" of his career, his anger when atrocities are met with silence, and the "slippery slope" waiting for humanitarians in Gaza. Guest: Philippe Lazzarini, departing commissioner-general of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) Got a question or feedback? Email podcast@thenewhumanitarian.org or post on social media using the hashtag #RethinkingHumanitarianism.

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