# Episode 251: More Than Empty Claims: Creating Truly Neurodivergent-Affirming Events [featuring Yael Clark and Liam Spicer]

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Podcast: [The Neurodivergent Entrepreneur](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-neurodivergent-entrepreneur-4488044)
Published: 2026-06-13T12:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://allthingsprivatepractice.captivate.fm/episode/251
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## Resource

In this episode, Patrick Casale talks with Yael Clark and Liam Spicer about building neurodiversity-affirming mental health spaces and the Neurodiversity Affirming Therapy Conference Australia & LOAPAC Expo. They discuss how collaboration among neurodivergent professionals can drive change—whether by centering lived experience, innovating inclusive practices, or redefining what “professional” environments look like. 3 Key takeaways: Practice What You Preach: Every layer of event planning—from speaker selection to seating arrangements—should be infused with neurodiversity-affirming values, not just the content itself. True Accessibility Means Change: Accommodations like sensory-friendly spaces, alternative seating, open movement, and even alternative applause create environments where more people can show up authentically and sustain their energy. Community-Led Innovation: Real impact comes from grassroots collaboration and feedback—welcoming new voices, ideas, and continuous adaptation, both onsite and online. If you’re creating events, building communities, or delivering care: model the values you want to see, because people notice—and they appreciate it. More about Yael: Yael Clark is an Educational & Developmental Psychologist and former teacher who established her private practice, Supporting Parents in 2005 after having taught at primary, secondary, and tertiary levels for 15 years. A late-identified AuDHDer herself, her work has increasingly expanded beyond the therapy room into disability rights, advocacy, and systems change. In 2020, she created an online community for Autistic mental health professionals, from which two larger groups quickly emerged, comprising more than 14,000 lived experience clinicians and allies. In 2024, she founded LOAPAC Austral…

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