# Wasps! What are they good for? Absolutely Everything, (Say it again) with Seirian Sumner

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Podcast: [The Nature Recovery Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nature-recovery-podcast-6206158)
Published: 2025-12-10T07:00:00+00:00
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Send us Fan Mail In this episode of the Nature Recovery Podcast, Stephen Thomas speaks with Professor Seirian Sumner, one of the world’s leading experts on social insects and a passionate advocate for rethinking our relationship with wasps. Seirian reveals how a reluctant PhD choice turned into a 25-year research career uncovering the remarkable societies, behaviours and ecological roles of these misunderstood insects. Together, they explore how social evolution unfolds inside a wasp colony, ...

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