# Pattie Gonia: How Nature Can Help Us Transcend Binaries

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Podcast: [The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nature-of-with-willow-defebaugh-7268428)
Published: 2026-04-28T10:00:00+00:00
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