# Tim Cook’s Real Legacy at Apple w/ Brian Merchant / Tech Won't Save Us

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Podcast: [The Nation Podcasts](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nation-podcasts-980506)
Published: 2026-04-30T09:00:31+00:00
Episode link: https://redcircle.com/shows/de5dbe33-63b3-4d3e-a545-07791baa168c/episodes/f0863506-e933-45f5-8ca7-918caa154a75
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Duration seconds: 3596

## Resource

Paris Marx is joined by Brian Merchant to discuss Apple’s announcement that Tim Cook is stepping down as CEO, including his history and legacy, and what may be next for the company. Brian Merchant is the author of The One Device and Blood in the Machine and writes a newsletter of the same name. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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