# The Dems After Tuesday’s Primaries, plus Elmore Leonard’s Bad Guys / Start Making Sense

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Podcast: [The Nation Podcasts](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nation-podcasts-980506)
Published: 2026-06-03T18:04:42+00:00
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## Resource

On this episode of Start Making Sense, John Nichols analyzes this week’s primary results in California and elsewhere, and, from the archives, Elmore Leonard talks about where his characters and plots came from. California’s jungle primary on Tuesday set the stage for the next Democratic governor of the state, and primaries in Iowa, New Jersey and elsewhere tested the strength of progressives in the party. John Nichols has our analysis. Also: from the archives: Elmore Leonard, who died in 2013 at age 87, was unpretentious about his massive accomplishments: 45 novels, more than a dozen turned into movies, and a reputation as one of the great writers of dialogue. When we spoke in 2000, he had just published Pagan Babies, and his movies Get Shorty , Jackie Brown , and Out of Sight had been hits. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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