# Dope Popes w/ Matt Sitman / Fighting Fascism

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Podcast: [The Nation Podcasts](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nation-podcasts-980506)
Published: 2026-07-13T14:35:08+00:00
Episode link: https://redcircle.com/shows/de5dbe33-63b3-4d3e-a545-07791baa168c/episodes/f55822dc-d368-490d-81f0-a3dcbd4724b9
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## Resource

Back in May, Pope Leo XIV released his first encyclical, “Magnifica Humanitas”—a surprisingly forceful call-out of dehumanizing technology, Big Tech oligarchs, and an economic order that casts the few as gods and the many as disposable. To talk about this work (and Aaron’s growing Catholicism-envy, and the utterly pathetic “faith” of J.D. Vance), we invited Matthew Sitman, co-host of the great Know Your Enemy Podcast and official Catholic sage of the erudite left, who walks us through this era of moral leadership from the Catholic Church. This is a good one. We swear, so help us God! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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